• Shamanism from a practitioner's perspective

    From Ricky Sutphin@RICKSBBS/TIME to All on Thursday, April 03, 2025 04:09:40
    Some posts about Shamanism from a practitioner's perspective.
    These are some screen dumps I made of two posts I made on the Mysteria BBS (Tujunga, CA) regarding some files they had online. I hope this stimulates further discussion and thought regarding the "new Shamanism" which has unfortunately been turned into just another New Age fad by hucksters who
    may or may not have been trained in The Ways and in any event are profaning
    and abusing them. Read...and think.
    Michelle Chihacou Klein-Hass (White-Puma)



    I did a little poking around in the text files about Shamanism and
    Shamanic consciousness. I must say, I agree with all that was there.
    My teacher, Misha Sacred Wolf (which is a forshortening of a much more
    complex name) is quite disgusted with the "Shamanism for sale" going
    on nowadays in the "new age" movement. With the popularity of the
    Lynn Andrews books (which have all the credibility of the later Carlos Casteneda books, which is slim and none) and the much more
    authoritative "Way Of The Shaman", it is almost as hip to say "I am a
    White who has been trained by Native Americans in their Ways, and I
    can train you for X-amount of dollars and X-amount of lessons," as it
    is to say "I channel such-and-such being from (pick one) 1.)Outer
    Space, 2.)from ancient Rome/Babylon/America/Atlantis or 3.) Dolphins."
    The shaman in the Native American tradition is an awesome figure. The
    primary shaman, the one that is looked up to in the tribe and trains
    others in certain parts of his (shamans were usually male) work, is
    BORN to it. A child, usually the most sickly one, is named at birth
    as the successor to the current shaman. He is trained for all his
    childhood, and THEN is tested. In the Chiricahua Apache tradition
    that Misha Sacred Wolf comes from, originally the shaman would have to literally jump off a cliff. Literally. This "jumping off" was later interpreted as an INNER, rather than a physical trial, often induced
    by the ingestion of Peyotl or Jimson Weed. In these old days, the
    test results were simple, binary, yes or no. If the shaman survives,
    he is the shaman. If he dies, then it's time to train another one.
    With the use of peyotl, the results are not so clear-cut. Insanity,
    personality disassociation, and even possession by the more malevolent discarnate entities (known singularly and plurally as Gan'n) were
    distinct possibilities even for the ones who truly "had it". There
    were other shamans and shaman-trained people of Power in the tribe.
    Healers, Midwives, Dancers, even the current Inday (Chief) were given
    some initiation. But there could be only one true (in all senses of
    the word) Shaman of the Tribal band. A shaman would sometimes be paid
    for his teachings, and would be compensated for his work at festivals.
    But the teachings could never be truly bought. I will discuss more
    next post. Enju! (kind of the equivalent of 'so mote it be') Michelle
    Chihacou Klein-Hass
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    My only quarrel with the book "The Way Of The Shaman" is the fact that
    the author, whose name escapes me at this time, has reduced the
    shamanic experience to a few basic elements which he claims as
    universals. One of them is the healing method of the Jivaro, which
    entails "sucking" diseases, in the form of spiritual intrusions, out
    of the "patient"'s body. Not all shamanic traditions have that sort
    of healing method. In fact, the healers and shamans of the
    southwestern tribes resemble, more or less, Chinese herbalists or
    Indian (that is, India-n)Ayurvedic doctors, relying quite a bit on a
    very advanced knowledge of helpful herbs. True, you would also have
    times when the disease (usually something mental or psychosomatic)
    would be judged the work of outside influences or of an inner
    imbalance within the spirit itself. The famous "mountain spirit"
    dance of the White Mountain Apaches (incorrectly known as the Gan'n or
    demon dance) was really an exercise in psychology, where the struggle
    between the disturbance (in the form of a Gan'n, or evil discarnate
    spirit) and the shaman and his assistants (in the form of the Mountain
    Spirits, with their brightly colored crowns, symbolic of the di-yin or
    divine energy that they have within and brightly colored loincloths)
    would be made real for the patient. The "mountain spirits" would also
    show up at the girls' puberty ceremonies, where they would be present
    to protect the girl, who would become, symbolically, White Painted
    Woman (sometimes rendered White Shell Woman) the embodyment of the
    Female God-principle, in the ceremony. As the representation of White
    Painted Woman, she would be very vulnerable to attack by discarnate
    entities, so the dancers would dance to purify the perimeter of the
    area where the ceremony would take place. But getting back to the
    healing Ways, most ailments would be treated herbally before any other
    measures were taken.
    In regards to Shamanism and Wicca being inter-related, I would
    have to differ with the positions taken by the writers of those
    articles. Wicca holds much in common with the ancient Ways, and seems
    to suggest a common ancestry in Paleolithic times. The magickal state
    of consciousness is very similar to the shamanic state of
    consciousness, and requires as much force of will. As the Witch uses
    the force of their Will to focus their inner energy towards a certain
    goal, the shaman uses the force of their will to see beyond the
    limitations of the physical world.
    To sum up though, the world of today, where instead of hunting
    for one's dinner one simply goes to the Supermarket and buys their
    dinner pre-packaged and sometimes ready to eat with a minimum of
    preparation, and where one has far more insidious enemies than White-
    eyes and the Gan'n, the traditional Ways need some revision, some
    rethinking. As it was, for Misha to be accepted as what she is by the
    remnant of her band of Chiricahua Teneh, it required much adjustment.
    She is only 1/4 Chiricahua and less than half Native American, and she
    has the green eyes and light hair of her European ancestry. And she
    is female, where traditionally among the Chiricahua a woman's place
    was in the rearing of children and the preparing of food, clothing and
    other necessities for living in harmony with the Earth, and not that
    of the most important figure of any tribal band, exponentially more
    powerful than even the Inday. The Ways hold awesome truths about
    ourselves, the Earth we inhabit, and even our multiverse. But they
    cannot remain static, clinging to days long past on one hand, and
    cannot be bastardised into just another "new age" cafeteria of
    philosophy either. As a very aware friend of mine put it, "this Gem
    needs a new setting." This is the challenge the modern-day Shamanist
    faces, and I think this challenge also faces Wicca, Buddhism,
    Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Sikhism, and whatever system
    of beliefs I didn't mention. We cannot turn back the clock and go
    back to hunting buffalo and gathering acorns. However, we can take
    this path forward into the future.
    "I bring the whirlwind, that you may know each other--WE SHALL RETURN!"
    With those impassioned, powerful words of Wovoka, the Sioux leader of
    the "Ghost Dance" movement of the 1880s, I think I've just about summed it
    all up. ENJU!
    Michelle Chihacou Klein-Hass (White-Puma)



    Again, I hope this stimulates some thought. If you wish to study
    Shamanism, be very careful with whom you study with. Be very suspicious of those who charge exorbitant fees, especially with healings. The book "The
    Way Of The Shaman" by Michael Harner is a good introduction to some very
    basic information. The Sun Bear material also holds insights, but also has
    a cultish feel, like the "Bear Tribe" is the only authentic custodian of Shamanic knowledge. Avoid the Lynn Andrews books like the plague, and
    tread with care around Carlos Castenada's works, especially the later
    stuff. He IS telling the truth about some things, so I do not suggest rejecting his work completely out of hand. I cannot recommend any books in regard to my own tradition, because there are really none, and I do not
    intend to write one either, out of deference to the Grandfathers and to
    Usen'. But there ARE authentic teachers out there. You can know them by
    just hanging around them. Fees are the easiest dead giveaway, but attitude
    is important, too. Trust your gut...it's usually right.

    Hi-dicho...this is finished.
    ENJU!
    Michelle Chihacou Klein-Hass (White-Puma)
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