I would like to do a little advertising for a forum here. Thematically it's about the
hobby BBS specifically and in general. Everything related to this hobby is or should
be covered in this forum. The forum is in no way intended to compete with existing structures. Rather an online round table for everyone interested in the topic.
Realtime chat function is added, also.

Address is: www.sysops-finest.org

After a fault on my side I've got a complete Data loss and I have rebuild this forum
last and this week.

My wish would be that it could be well received by you and that a lot of information
and experiences could be exchanged there. As with everything, it can only be a success with your support and acceptance. Each of us can contribute a knowledge
to this topic. I am firmly convinced that the basic idea is not a bad one.

Of course I am open to requests, changes or suggestions!

So.. maybe you will give it a try? I'm curious about your feedback!

Mike

--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v7.0
* Origin: Global Chaos BBS, The Home of the Nets and Files (618:500/64)

Michael Selhof wrote to All <=-

I would like to do a little advertising for a forum here.
Thematically it's about the hobby BBS specifically and in
general. Everything related to this hobby is or should be covered
in this forum. The forum is in no way intended to compete with
existing structures. Rather an online round table for everyone
interested in the topic. Realtime chat function is added, also.

Address is: www.sysops-finest.org

After a fault on my side I've got a complete Data loss and I have
rebuild this forum last and this week.

My wish would be that it could be well received by you and that a
lot of information and experiences could be exchanged there. As
with everything, it can only be a success with your support and acceptance. Each of us can contribute a knowledge to this topic.
I am firmly convinced that the basic idea is not a bad one.

Of course I am open to requests, changes or suggestions!

So.. maybe you will give it a try? I'm curious about your
feedback!

My feedback would be: Why do we need a "web forum" to discuss BBS'ing?
We can discuss BBS'ing right here on .... BBSes.

What does it offer that we don't have here already?



... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.
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My feedback would be: Why do we need a "web forum" to discuss BBS'ing? We can discuss BBS'ing right here on .... BBSes.
What does it offer that we don't have here already?

I agree. I would prefer to Discuss anything related to BBSing on a BBS. Kinda the idea behind BBSing and BBS forums. There are a few Discord groups realted to BBSing and I think it has its use and place but I think that it takes away from the BBS experience IMHO. We need more reasons to get people to logon to BBSes.

|02-=|10Cozmo|02=-

... "I am" is the shortest sentence in English. Is 'I do' the longest?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Lunatics Unleashed (618:100/42)

On 23.03.2024 08:43, Gamgee wrote to Michael Selhof:

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@TID: SBBSecho 3.20-Linux master/ad12b9b21 Jan 15 2024 GCC 11.2.0
@BBSID: PALANTIR
@CHRS: ASCII 1

Michael Selhof wrote to All <=-

I would like to do a little advertising for a forum here.
Thematically it's about the hobby BBS specifically and in
general. Everything related to this hobby is or should be covered
in this forum. The forum is in no way intended to compete with
existing structures. Rather an online round table for everyone interested in the topic. Realtime chat function is added, also.

Address is: www.sysops-finest.org

After a fault on my side I've got a complete Data loss and I have rebuild this forum last and this week.

My wish would be that it could be well received by you and that a
lot of information and experiences could be exchanged there. As
with everything, it can only be a success with your support and acceptance. Each of us can contribute a knowledge to this topic.
I am firmly convinced that the basic idea is not a bad one.

Of course I am open to requests, changes or suggestions!

So.. maybe you will give it a try? I'm curious about your
feedback!

My feedback would be: Why do we need a "web forum" to discuss BBS'ing?
We can discuss BBS'ing right here on .... BBSes.

What does it offer that we don't have here already?

... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (618:250/24)

Hi Gamgee

Your question is of course valid! Indirectly, I would like to support the German-speaking area to spark an interest for this hobby. The new generation don't search, on the networks. This generation searches forums and gets information from Web sites.
Basically, it's about bringing your knowledge from all the individual news networks back to one point. I cannot add your knowledge into it! In my opinion, if you like, it is a knowledge investment for future Sysop's, also for German-speaking countries. We wouldn't be here if we didn't enjoy this hobby.

But a lot of the german Sysop's are 60+, the rest of the 90's Sysop's. And they are only a few!

The forum does not serve to highlight my person in any way! I promised that! Personally,
I find the topic of BBS'ing so interesting that I would like to inspire others to take up this
wonderful hobby. Nothing more, but nothing less either. But of course I also need your help so that the whole thing can be on solid footing.

And yes. I've noticed that, that different people tried this in the past, too. I like to think outside the box, so the American BBS scene doesn't necessarily have to be comparable to the German-speaking scene.

But... if you don't wanna help to create this, and that's what I wanted to ask you,
maybe we have a good discussion?

Greetings

Mike

--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v7.0
* Origin: Global Chaos BBS, The Home of the Nets and Files (618:500/64)

On 23.03.2024 12:01, Ross Branham wrote to Gamgee:

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@MSGID: 618:100/42 cead6f27
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@TZUTC: -0400

My feedback would be: Why do we need a "web forum" to discuss

BBS'ing?

We can discuss BBS'ing right here on .... BBSes.
What does it offer that we don't have here already?

I agree. I would prefer to Discuss anything related to BBSing on a BBS.

Kinda

the idea behind BBSing and BBS forums. There are a few Discord groups

realted

to BBSing and I think it has its use and place but I think that it takes

away

from the BBS experience IMHO. We need more reasons to get people to

logon to

BBSes.

|02-=|10Cozmo|02=-

... "I am" is the shortest sentence in English. Is 'I do' the longest?

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Lunatics Unleashed (618:100/42)

Dear Ross

Thank you for your answer! I agree with that! But most of the young user
don t know the nets, or BBS. They know www and forum s.
So my way is to present a plattform for this in german and english language. Because here in germany the scene is small.

But good will from my side isn t enough to fill this Forum with life, knowledge
and expierience! But what do you invest? A little time and your big Knowledge! Not more, but also not less! It is always easier to say things dead. And . it is right.. Nobody said to me, do this.

But I love this hobby (bbs ing), many of you, too! I wanna show interested people how great, beautiful and interesting this Hobby can be.

That s my goal!

Greetings

Mike


--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v7.0
* Origin: Global Chaos BBS, The Home of the Nets and Files (618:500/64)

To: Michael Selhof
Re: Re: BBS Support Forum
By: Michael Selhof to Ross Branham on Sat Mar 23 2024 10:34 pm

But good will from my side isn t enough to fill this Forum with life, knowledge and expierience! But what do you invest? A little time and your big
Knowledge! Not more, but also not less! It is always easier to say things dead. And . it is right.. Nobody said to me, do this.

But I love this hobby (bbs ing), many of you, too! I wanna show interested people how great, beautiful and interesting this Hobby can be.

That s my goal!

i suggest you setup a forum and network it to your bbs msg bases.
if you're using synchronet you can use nntp to link them.
a few of us did that back in the day.
--- Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* bbses.info - http://bbses.info - telnet://bbses.info
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Thank you for your answer! I agree with that! But most of the young user don t know the nets, or BBS. They know www and forum s.
So my way is to present a plattform for this in german and english language. Because here in germany the scene is small.
But good will from my side isn t enough to fill this Forum with life, knowledge

and expierience! But what do you invest? A little time and your big Knowledge! Not more, but also not less! It is always easier to say
things dead. And . it is right.. Nobody said to me, do this.

But I love this hobby (bbs ing), many of you, too! I wanna show
interested people how great, beautiful and interesting this Hobby can
be.

That s my goal!

Hi Mike,

You make some valid points. Any avenue to get people to use BBSes is a good one, especially with the younger generation. I'm a bit old school when it comes to certain thing about BBSing.

I think is a good thing that your are putting an effort into getting people BBSing and I'm not against it. I particpate in a few internet forums on Discord. Most of them are mainly sysops exchanging information and ideas that can be discussed on the BBS forums. Discord has it's plus's, mainly much quicker interaction with photos and files which I think is the plus. So I don't know if we are gaining many new BBS users with it. But at the same time I guess it can't hurt to try.

So, hopefully your forum will get some new people to check out some BBSes.

|02-=|10Cozmo|02=-

... Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Lunatics Unleashed (618:100/42)

Basically, it's about bringing your knowledge from all the individual news net
rks back to one point. I cannot add your knowledge into it! In my opinion, if u like, it is a knowledge investment for future Sysop's, also for German-speak
g countries. We wouldn't be here if we didn't enjoy this hobby.

If you are trying to reach new users, or former BBS users who may think
that BBSes are "gone," then it makes sense to do so outside of the BBS community. Otherwise the target audience won't likely ever find the information.

Mike


* SLMR 2.1a * "Bother", said Pooh, as he put on his asbestos suit.
--- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
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Hello Michael Selhof!

** On Saturday 23.03.24 - 22:34, Michael Selhof wrote to Ross Branham:

Thank you for your answer! I agree with that! But most of
the young user don t know the nets, or BBS. They know www
and forum s.

Then print and distribute QR codes + info at physical bulletin
boards (usually found at post offies, grocery stores,
laundromats) ..that will attract potential people to what
BBSings is, and where they can get all the necessary tools,
specifically the telnet/interface apps they need, to get
started.

Many BBSes already have "home" webpages that provide that for
the curious.

But, I think the key in all of that is how to convince the
curious visitor WHY they need to experience BBSing.

So my way is to present a plattform for this in german and
english language. Because here in germany the scene is
small.

Again.. marketing. The scene will remain small if people don't
know that the BBSing experience exists and can fulfill a need.

But.. will a new generation of smartphone users be happy with a
solution like this:

https://realitycheckbbs.org/images/bwphone.jpg

I dunno. :D

But I love this hobby (bbs ing), many of you, too! I wanna
show interested people how great, beautiful and
interesting this Hobby can be.

How about a gallery of BBS welcome screens, a list of offerings
on those BBSes, etc? SBBS-listings and TelnetBBSguide and
IPTIA have various implementations of that already.
--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.58
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On 23.03.2024 20:24, Jas Hud wrote to Michael Selhof:

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@TID: SBBSecho 3.20-Linux master/95ae0137d Mar 1 2024 GCC 12.2.0
@BBSID: CAPCITY2
@CHRS: ASCII 1
To: Michael Selhof
Re: Re: BBS Support Forum
By: Michael Selhof to Ross Branham on Sat Mar 23 2024 10:34 pm

But good will from my side isn t enough to fill this Forum with life, knowledge and expierience! But what do you invest? A little time and your
big
Knowledge! Not more, but also not less! It is always easier to say things dead. And . it is right.. Nobody said to me, do this.

But I love this hobby (bbs ing), many of you, too! I wanna show interested
people how great, beautiful and interesting this Hobby can be.

That s my goal!

i suggest you setup a forum and network it to your bbs msg bases.
if you're using synchronet you can use nntp to link them.
a few of us did that back in the day.
--- Synchronet 3.19b-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
* bbses.info - http://bbses.info - telnet://bbses.info
* Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (618:250/1)

Hi Jason

Thank you for your suggestion! I have to look, if this could be possible with the
commercial Software (XenForo). But I'm not shure if this could be realized.

But Messages are only one part of the forum. Maybe you can take a look on it and get an impression of what it could become. I think the forum is something between reading/viewable and direct showing/helping... One day.

www.sysops-finest.org

That's, in my opinion, the difference between pure Message networks and a modern
forum. But I also think that the news networks have to be popular! Ideally, the
forum serves to collect targeted information and make many people aware of other BBS's or news networks.

People who may be planning to open a BBS themselves, to provide assistance with hardware/software/tools, etc., so that the BBS family remains as large as possible.

That's why I added the important thread "BBS's introduce themselves". Modern BBS's are reachable from the WWW, too. So things changed since the 90's.
The possible application range for a BBS has therefore increased. As an example
I would like to use ANSI/ASCII vs. web or graphic design.

These things cannot be represented in a news network, but they have also become
important in today's BBS world.

The Forum could show things, what a network couln't.

All I wanna try is to get things collected and bundled back to on point. Information in
the forum and with these Information back to a BBS/Sysop, or an interested Visitor.

Sharing knowledge and experience costs nothing but a new Sysop become a good start
into the BBS family. And don't be angry, young people don't look at news networks first. They know WWW. And the goal is, or could be, from the WWW to the BBS scene. Into
our Hobby!

Therefore, and I can only repeat myself, a forum only works if there is acceptance and
the meaning behind it is understood. I like to repeat myself here. It's all about this hobby and not about me as a person.

This would work if as many people as possible recognized or acknowledged it!

In my opinion, be the ideal case!

Greetings

Mike

--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v7.0
* Origin: Global Chaos BBS, The Home of the Nets and Files (618:500/64)

On 24.03.2024 09:48, Ross Branham wrote to Michael Selhof:

@TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A48
@MSGID: 618:100/42 275d0149
@REPLY: 618:100/1 83c14141
@TZUTC: -0400

Thank you for your answer! I agree with that! But most of the young user
don t know the nets, or BBS. They know www and forum s.
So my way is to present a plattform for this in german and english language. Because here in germany the scene is small.
But good will from my side isn t enough to fill this Forum with life, knowledge

and expierience! But what do you invest? A little time and your big Knowledge! Not more, but also not less! It is always easier to say things dead. And . it is right.. Nobody said to me, do this.

But I love this hobby (bbs ing), many of you, too! I wanna show interested people how great, beautiful and interesting this Hobby can be.

That s my goal!

Hi Mike,

You make some valid points. Any avenue to get people to use BBSes is a good one, especially with the younger generation. I'm a bit old school when it comes
to certain thing about BBSing.

I think is a good thing that your are putting an effort into getting people BBSing and I'm not against it. I particpate in a few internet forums on Discord. Most of them are mainly sysops exchanging information and ideas that
can be discussed on the BBS forums. Discord has it's plus's, mainly much quicker interaction with photos and files which I think is the plus. So I don't
know if we are gaining many new BBS users with it. But at the same time I guess
it can't hurt to try.

So, hopefully your forum will get some new people to check out some BBSes.

|02-=|10Cozmo|02=-

... Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32)
* Origin: Lunatics Unleashed (618:100/42)

Dear Ross

If I had a crystal ball, I probably wouldn't have created the forum, or I would have
done it sooner. Nobody knows at the beginning whether a commitment is worth it or
not!

I also see an advantage of Discord, which is why I also have the interface to it in my forum. Unfortunately only in the direction of my forum to -> Discord!

But there aren't many forums that deal absolutly and exclusively with the topic of BBS'ing. Discord and Reddit kind of do everything and maybe that's where the difference lies?
Discord, Reddit, Micronet, Fidonet, Metronet, DOVE-net, WINSnet and and and. Knowledge and expierence is very widely spreaded. My goal is to bring it back to one point, without questioning the other things! Diversity has never hurt!

If somebody posted something in "my" forum, it will be automatically posted on the discord-server of Sysop's Finest, too. And if one of the members of my forum are interested in one or more threads, he will noticed via Email that somebody has answered or adding something to the threads, or "File- or Media-Area". I have also a chat/chat-rooms function on the forum.

This would make the issue of time delays very manageable and every user could decide, if he reacts immediately or later.

The final question stays, is the community willing to support this forum, or ignore it for
the reasons already mentioned? And only everyone can answer the question for themselves! And everyone knows that too. If a project is not accepted and supported,
it will be very difficult for the "admin/sysop" to collect and provide reasonable and up-to-date information alone on his own. And so far, some people have given up because of it.

In any case, my arms remain outstretched and I am happy about anyone who would like to support this project with his knowledge/experience. And I try my best to give
this topic a room. So my suggestion is... take a look on the forum and decide then.
I'm open for changes/adding missing things, as they are available or makeable! The forum is not an end in itself!

So have a nice day and keep on BBS'ing!

Mike


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On 24.03.2024 09:31, Mike Powell wrote to Michael Selhof:

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@TID: SBBSecho 3.20-Linux master/95ae0137d Mar 1 2024 GCC 12.2.0
@BBSID: CAPCITY2
@CHRS: ASCII 1

Basically, it's about bringing your knowledge from all the individual news

net

rks back to one point. I cannot add your knowledge into it! In my opinion, if
u like, it is a knowledge investment for future Sysop's, also for

German-speak

g countries. We wouldn't be here if we didn't enjoy this hobby.

If you are trying to reach new users, or former BBS users who may think
that BBSes are "gone," then it makes sense to do so outside of the BBS community. Otherwise the target audience won't likely ever find the information.

Mike

* SLMR 2.1a * "Bother", said Pooh, as he put on his asbestos suit.
--- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
* Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (618:250/1)

Dear Mike, or Hello :-)

Younger people mostly don't know what a BBS, Telnet, Fidonet is. If nobody of their
friends/parents have this hobby it will be hard to reach them. WWW and Discord they
know. But most of them don't know, that are BBS themes on Discord, too. They are
using mostly their browser to surf into the internet.

My childs are looking at me with big eyes as I told them.. Daddy is opening a BBS.
They are 27, 24 and 19 and playing most of the day Online!

So the www remains as a possible starting point for this hobby. (my pers. opinion)

And here could be the possible approach!

Greetings

Mike

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* Origin: Global Chaos BBS, The Home of the Nets and Files (618:500/64)

On 24.03.2024 10:45, August Abolins wrote to Michael Selhof:

@MSGID: 618:250/1.9@micronet 12bfb610
@PID: OpenXP/5.0.58 (Win32)
@CHRS: CP437 2
@TZUTC: -0400
Hello Michael Selhof!

** On Saturday 23.03.24 - 22:34, Michael Selhof wrote to Ross Branham:

Thank you for your answer! I agree with that! But most of
the young user don t know the nets, or BBS. They know www
and forum s.

Then print and distribute QR codes + info at physical bulletin
boards (usually found at post offies, grocery stores,
laundromats) ..that will attract potential people to what
BBSings is, and where they can get all the necessary tools,
specifically the telnet/interface apps they need, to get
started.

Many BBSes already have "home" webpages that provide that for
the curious.

But, I think the key in all of that is how to convince the
curious visitor WHY they need to experience BBSing.

So my way is to present a plattform for this in german and
english language. Because here in germany the scene is
small.

Again.. marketing. The scene will remain small if people don't
know that the BBSing experience exists and can fulfill a need.

But.. will a new generation of smartphone users be happy with a
solution like this:

https://realitycheckbbs.org/images/bwphone.jpg

I dunno. :D

But I love this hobby (bbs ing), many of you, too! I wanna
show interested people how great, beautiful and
interesting this Hobby can be.

How about a gallery of BBS welcome screens, a list of offerings
on those BBSes, etc? SBBS-listings and TelnetBBSguide and
IPTIA have various implementations of that already.
--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.58
* Origin: The LOOK of MicroNET https://kolico.ca/ftn/micronet (618:250/1.9)

Hello

Yep.... Marketing is a good approach if you are living in a big city. Everybody knows,
if he lives in the country with 300 population, that this try quickly reaches to the end.

In that Area I'm living... small Village.

But we are now reachable worldwide. And the time of handouts are gone.

Maybe that is old-school, too. I don't know... In the 90's popular Boards were very
well attended and you often had to wait forever for the connection to this BBS. Maybe the older of us remember that time? Yep... old school!

But today it is similar. Good web pages (in this case a forum) could be also very well
attended. I think the time hasn't changed for this!

So and I repeat me again. It's up to you to take a look on it and it is your decision
to support it with your often big knowledge. Or you ignore it.

Everybody is welcomed to be a part of it. Presenting your BBS in an own thread, where every sysop can present their system in the best possible and viewable way.
Dual language, cause in the hope that the german speaking areas get noticed, too.

And when many Sysop's do it in the same way, the forum get's popular. If the forum is popular, other people will find this and in my eyes this could bring things full circle.

Could!

Greetings

Mike




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To: August Abolins
Re: BBS Support Forum
By: August Abolins to Michael Selhof on Sun Mar 24 2024 10:41 am

How about a gallery of BBS welcome screens, a list of offerings
on those BBSes, etc? SBBS-listings and TelnetBBSguide and
IPTIA have various implementations of that already.

how are you going to solve the problem of people not wanting to use bbses?

that's the real issue. people prefer facebook, snapchat, instagram, shit like that.
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To: Michael Selhof
Re: Re: BBS Support Forum
By: Michael Selhof to Jas Hud on Sun Mar 24 2024 09:22 am

i suggest you setup a forum and network it to your bbs msg bases.
if you're using synchronet you can use nntp to link them.
a few of us did that back in the day.

Thank you for your suggestion! I have to look, if this could be possible with the
commercial Software (XenForo). But I'm not shure if this could be realized.

never heard of it. we used vbulletin with the nntp hack.
there's a few other ones that allow nntp connections.

But Messages are only one part of the forum. Maybe you can take a look on it and get an impression of what it could become. I think the forum is something between reading/viewable and direct showing/helping... One day.

www.sysops-finest.org

no thanks, not interested.

People who may be planning to open a BBS themselves, to provide assistance with hardware/software/tools, etc., so that the BBS family remains as large as possible.

we all figured out how to set this up when we were kids. it's not that complicated.

Therefore, and I can only repeat myself, a forum only works if there is acceptance and
the meaning behind it is understood. I like to repeat myself here. It's all about this hobby and not about me as a person.

This would work if as many people as possible recognized or acknowledged it!

In my opinion, be the ideal case!

i don't think there's a real need for what you are trying to do.
okay i just looked at your website. that is a big no thanks.
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Hello Jas Hud!

** On Monday 25.03.24 - 01:51, Jas Hud wrote to August Abolins:

how are you going to solve the problem of people not
wanting to use bbses?

that's the real issue. people prefer facebook, snapchat,
instagram, shit like that.

Reviewing the messages of Michael S, it appears that his focus
is for sysops, not users. My bad.

He wants to round up sysops that use a variety of bbs software
and have a central one-stop-fits-all place for sysops to share
stories and information. Hence, "Support Forum".

Maybe such a place would have a side-effect of attracting new
people to try operating a BBS. Dunno.

As for users, yeah.. it's hard to get regular people interested
in bothering to visit BBSes.


--
../|ug

--- OpenXP 5.0.58
* Origin: (618:400/23.10)

On 25.03.2024 02:01, Jas Hud wrote to Michael Selhof:

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To: Michael Selhof
Re: Re: BBS Support Forum
By: Michael Selhof to Jas Hud on Sun Mar 24 2024 09:22 am

i suggest you setup a forum and network it to your bbs msg bases.
if you're using synchronet you can use nntp to link them.
a few of us did that back in the day.

Thank you for your suggestion! I have to look, if this could be possible with the
commercial Software (XenForo). But I'm not shure if this could be

realized.

never heard of it. we used vbulletin with the nntp hack.
there's a few other ones that allow nntp connections.

But Messages are only one part of the forum. Maybe you can take a

look on it

and get an impression of what it could become. I think the forum is something between reading/viewable and direct showing/helping... One

day.

www.sysops-finest.org

no thanks, not interested.

People who may be planning to open a BBS themselves, to provide

assistance

with hardware/software/tools, etc., so that the BBS family remains as

large

as possible.

we all figured out how to set this up when we were kids. it's not that complicated.

Therefore, and I can only repeat myself, a forum only works if there is acceptance and
the meaning behind it is understood. I like to repeat myself here. It's

all

about this hobby and not about me as a person.

This would work if as many people as possible recognized or

acknowledged it!

In my opinion, be the ideal case!

i don't think there's a real need for what you are trying to do.
okay i just looked at your website. that is a big no thanks.
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Dear Jason

Thank you for your honest words!

I also think that this discussion has reached a point where it should be
ended now. I understood the negative attitude.

Have a nice day..

Mike

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To: August Abolins
Re: BBS Support Forum
By: August Abolins to Jas Hud on Mon Mar 25 2024 05:20 pm

that's the real issue. people prefer facebook, snapchat,
instagram, shit like that.

Reviewing the messages of Michael S, it appears that his focus
is for sysops, not users. My bad.

There's no difference. sysops are the users now.
and we're all people. there's reasons why these online services
are popular.

He wants to round up sysops that use a variety of bbs software
and have a central one-stop-fits-all place for sysops to share
stories and information. Hence, "Support Forum".

Yeah i've heard him talk about it several times. we already have like 5 of those sites that people don't really utilize anymore.

People like to paint me as a negative nancy but pretty much nobody else has
put more time and money into getting people interested in bbsing and getting old bbsers back into the hobby for 20+ years.

The fact is, people go with what they like.

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To: Michael Selhof
Re: Re: BBS Support Forum
By: Michael Selhof to Jas Hud on Mon Mar 25 2024 09:38 am

I also think that this discussion has reached a point where it should be ended now. I understood the negative attitude.

it's more like a realistic attitude, especially after checking out your website.
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On 25.03.2024 19:11, Jas Hud wrote to Michael Selhof:

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To: Michael Selhof
Re: Re: BBS Support Forum
By: Michael Selhof to Jas Hud on Mon Mar 25 2024 09:38 am

I also think that this discussion has reached a point where it should be ended now. I understood the negative attitude.

it's more like a realistic attitude, especially after checking out your website.
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Dear Jason

What exactly and when? The temporary homepage, or the closed forum
where you as a guest shouldn't or couldn't see any entries or detailed design?

Maybe you remember, I've lost everything, which were created the two weeks before
about 10/12 days ago. So the last days, beside my normal work and family life, were characterized by having to completely reinstall the forum again, because no backup
were present, too. And of course that set me back. And new things also need time to grow. Every Sysop knows that, too. And nobody couldn't tell me, that a BBS is finally created/filled within 3 or 4 weeks (The time after I bought the commercial Forum Software).

But I thought our points of view had already been exchanged? And your decicion stays.
And that's absolutly ok for me! We are living in a democracy.

Have a nice day!

Mike

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On 25.03.2024 17:24, August Abolins wrote to Jas Hud:

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Hello Jas Hud!

** On Monday 25.03.24 - 01:51, Jas Hud wrote to August Abolins:

how are you going to solve the problem of people not
wanting to use bbses?

that's the real issue. people prefer facebook, snapchat,
instagram, shit like that.

Reviewing the messages of Michael S, it appears that his focus
is for sysops, not users. My bad.

He wants to round up sysops that use a variety of bbs software
and have a central one-stop-fits-all place for sysops to share
stories and information. Hence, "Support Forum".

Maybe such a place would have a side-effect of attracting new
people to try operating a BBS. Dunno.

As for users, yeah.. it's hard to get regular people interested
in bothering to visit BBSes.

--
../|ug

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Dear August

From me a very last reply to this topic.

I fully agree with Jason in some points, but not all!

1. Who has the knowledge of the several BBS programs and Tools => Sysops
Not the User who is the first time, or after a long pause (+20 years) like
in my case, interested in this topic, again. And we are again at the point,
why I've tried 1st to get in touch with the Sysop's. 1st hand experience!

I accept the negative attitude towards this forum, but that doesn't mean
that I won't continue it. As I wrote, it would be easier, quicker and more versatile and probably better in the quality if many would support it.
(Always for the interesting User or Sysop).

All other things were discussed and I like to close the debate from my side. The respective sides exchanged their arguments for or against this project.
I really wanna thank everybody for his pers. opinion! That's what I've asked for and that's what I've got!

With that in mind, have a nice day!

Mike


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To: Michael Selhof
Re: Re: BBS Support Forum
By: Michael Selhof to Jas Hud on Tue Mar 26 2024 06:58 am

Maybe you remember, I've lost everything, which were created the two weeks before
about 10/12 days ago. So the last days, beside my normal work and family life, were characterized by having to completely reinstall the forum again, because no backup
were present, too. And of course that set me back. And new things also need time to grow. Every Sysop knows that, too. And nobody couldn't tell me, that a BBS is finally created/filled within 3 or 4 weeks (The time after I bought the commercial Forum Software).

So you want everyone to use your system, yet you don't back things up and somehow had an issue where you lost everything?

You want everyone to put all their hard work and effort into a service you provide, and you can not protect it for even a short time?

But I thought our points of view had already been exchanged? And your decicion stays.
And that's absolutly ok for me! We are living in a democracy.

yeah i can understand how you do not want to talk about this with me.
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To: Michael Selhof
Re: RE: BBS Support Forum
By: Michael Selhof to August Abolins on Tue Mar 26 2024 11:35 am

Dear August

From me a very last reply to this topic.

I fully agree with Jason in some points, but not all!

I accept the negative attitude towards this forum, but that doesn't mean that I won't continue it. As I wrote, it would be easier, quicker and more versatile and probably better in the quality if many would support it. (Always for the interesting User or Sysop).

call it a negative attitude. I don't want to play russian roulette because there's a chance you can take that bullet. Is that being negative? Should we all be positive and play russian roulette?

Go ahead and do it. nobody's stopping you.
go organize it and fill it up with information.
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On 26.03.2024 20:23, Jas Hud wrote to Michael Selhof:

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To: Michael Selhof
Re: Re: BBS Support Forum
By: Michael Selhof to Jas Hud on Tue Mar 26 2024 06:58 am

Maybe you remember, I've lost everything, which were created the two weeks
before
about 10/12 days ago. So the last days, beside my normal work and family life, were characterized by having to completely reinstall the forum again,
because no backup
were present, too. And of course that set me back. And new things also need
time to grow. Every Sysop knows that, too. And nobody couldn't tell me, that
a BBS is finally created/filled within 3 or 4 weeks (The time after I bought
the commercial Forum Software).

So you want everyone to use your system, yet you don't back things up and somehow had an issue where you lost everything?

You want everyone to put all their hard work and effort into a service you provide, and you can not protect it for even a short time?

But I thought our points of view had already been exchanged? And your decicion stays.
And that's absolutly ok for me! We are living in a democracy.

yeah i can understand how you do not want to talk about this with me.
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Dear Jason

I would phrase it differently. I would have liked support from Sysop's for this hobby.
It would have simplified things and put the quality of the forum on another level.

And yes, I made the mistake of thinking about a backup too late.
My fault, no ifs or buts!

In the contruction phase it happens, that you do the whole day things, and forget
the important backup.

And why I think that everything was actually written by both of us is because of
your aggressive writing, which in my opinion is no longer effective!

The discussion is one thing. Accusations, pointing fingers at others who actually want
to do something good for the cause, in my eyes, is the other.

All because I friently asked for support for this project.
I have presented my reasons, I hope objectively, and I've got reasons why there will be no support from the reading Sysop's. I accepted that too!

I'm always open for a factual, constructive discussion about the topic BBS'ing! Or sense or nonsense of a forum to this topic.
But your accusations have taken on a quality that makes further discussion extremely difficult. And so I think everything has been said/written. It's better...

Have a nice day Jason

Mike



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On 26.03.2024 20:29, Jas Hud wrote to Michael Selhof:

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To: Michael Selhof
Re: RE: BBS Support Forum
By: Michael Selhof to August Abolins on Tue Mar 26 2024 11:35 am

Dear August

From me a very last reply to this topic.

I fully agree with Jason in some points, but not all!

I accept the negative attitude towards this forum, but that doesn't mean that I won't continue it. As I wrote, it would be easier, quicker and more
versatile and probably better in the quality if many would support it. (Always for the interesting User or Sysop).

call it a negative attitude. I don't want to play russian roulette because there's a chance you can take that bullet. Is that being negative? Should we
all be positive and play russian roulette?

Go ahead and do it. nobody's stopping you.
go organize it and fill it up with information.
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Jason

I couldn't really make a connection between my, I hope kind, request and russian Roulette!

We are absolutly abandoning the basic tenor of my request!

Mike



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On 27 Mar 24 07:48:06, Michael Selhof said the following to Jas Hud:

We are absolutly abandoning the basic tenor of my request!

There is a reason why he is universally disliked on every Net he posts on.

Save your breath and run your forum however you like if it makes you happy.

Nick

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To: Nick Andre
Re: Re: RE: BBS Support Forum
By: Nick Andre to Michael Selhof on Wed Mar 27 2024 08:27 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.chat.general

On 27 Mar 24 07:48:06, Michael Selhof said the following to Jas Hud:

We are absolutly abandoning the basic tenor of my request!

There is a reason why he is universally disliked on every Net he posts

on.

That's not true, you're just mad because i said d'bridge sucks.

Most of the msg nets ARE full of lame ass bbs people leftovers though.
A bunch of them wouldn't be running without me as well, not that you would hear them admit it. (not micronet)

Save your breath and run your forum however you like if it makes you happy.

Oh i hope he does run his forum. and maybe he will back it up too.
I wish everybody luck, except you.

I'll be looking forward to all the support you give his forum :D
I'm sure you will be very forthcoming. You could do a d'bridge install
faq on his forum or something. I sure bet you will do that.

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Jas Hud wrote to Nick Andre <=-

We are absolutly abandoning the basic tenor of my request!

There is a reason why he is universally disliked on every Net he posts
on.

That's not true, you're just mad because i said d'bridge sucks.

It is true, and everybody reading this knows it.

Most of the msg nets ARE full of lame ass bbs people leftovers
though. A bunch of them wouldn't be running without me as well,
not that you would hear them admit it. (not micronet)

Yeah, you keep saying that (that you've helped SO MANY people). Problem
is, there's zero evidence from anywhere/anybody that shows that to be
true.


... At the end of the day, it gets dark.
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On 27 Mar 24 23:19:14, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

I'll be looking forward to all the support you give his forum :D

I may not participate in his forum but he is more than welcome to use my hosting services anytime.

You should know that pretty much every Net or BBS you pollute uses my services to some degree, or has me involved at some level, all documented, all public, freely available... even my cell is public, somewhere.... Rob Swindell even hardcoded my email in your beloved SBBS.

Maybe we can take this to Netmail if you can figure out how to send one?

Nick

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On 27 Mar 24 23:19:14, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

I'll be looking forward to all the support you give his forum :D

Maybe we can take this to Netmail if you can figure out how to send one?

Ha ha! JH <attempts> to help me occasionally, but he usually just makes fun
of my incoherent sentence structure.

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(ports 22, 23, 110, 21, 119) (ssh: login bbs password shsbbs)


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On 27.03.2024 20:27, Nick Andre wrote to Michael Selhof:

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@REPLY: 9466.min_chaf@618:250/1 2a68d0fb
On 27 Mar 24 07:48:06, Michael Selhof said the following to Jas Hud:

We are absolutly abandoning the basic tenor of my request!

There is a reason why he is universally disliked on every Net he posts on.

Save your breath and run your forum however you like if it makes you happy.

Nick

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Dear Nick

Yep.. I thought something like this, too.

Being happy is always a thing. I think the topic is something special that deserves support. Especially here in German-speaking countries.

Hopefully I answered everything calm and wise?

Thank you for your answer Nick!

Mike


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On 28.03.2024 07:57, Gamgee wrote to Jas Hud:

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11.2.0

@TID: SBBSecho 3.20-Linux master/ad12b9b21 Jan 15 2024 GCC 11.2.0
@BBSID: PALANTIR
@CHRS: ASCII 1

Jas Hud wrote to Nick Andre <=-

We are absolutly abandoning the basic tenor of my request!

There is a reason why he is universally disliked on every Net he posts on.

That's not true, you're just mad because i said d'bridge sucks.

It is true, and everybody reading this knows it.

Most of the msg nets ARE full of lame ass bbs people leftovers
though. A bunch of them wouldn't be running without me as well,
not that you would hear them admit it. (not micronet)

Yeah, you keep saying that (that you've helped SO MANY people).

Problem

is, there's zero evidence from anywhere/anybody that shows that to be
true.

... At the end of the day, it gets dark.
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Sorry

Even at the risk of it continuing.

Sometimes there are just things that can't be fixed.
Therefore every attempt fails, too.
But every time you need both sides to get a compromise!

Mike


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To: Nick Andre
Re: Re: RE: BBS Support Forum
By: Nick Andre to Jas Hud on Thu Mar 28 2024 02:55 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.chat.general

On 27 Mar 24 23:19:14, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

I'll be looking forward to all the support you give his forum :D

I may not participate in his forum but he is more than welcome to use my hosting services anytime.

no no no. you need to provide your knowledge and input. that's what he needs. Your hosting services aren't as useful as you think. It may be a big deal in canada but not everywhere else.

You should know that pretty much every Net or BBS you pollute uses my services to some degree, or has me involved at some level, all documented,

Good for you. At one time almost everyone was using my services and a large amount of those people that are connected to you are derived from my help over the years with running a bbs and setting up ftn. Nobody cares. And people come and go.

How about helping this guy with his forum? Share your knowledge and insight.

Also, you act like i'm an active bbs user. that's laughable.
No bbses are worth calling. AND I post on 2 nets.

Maybe we can take this to Netmail if you can figure out how to send one?

Nick

What for? Do you have the delusion that i enjoy talking to you?
Keep enjoying taking your little shots at me. I'm sure it makes your little dick hard.

Sorry for hurting your feelings years ago, nick! I don't know what I did but whatever it did must have had you crying all night to act like this.
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To: Shurato
Re: Re: RE: BBS Support Forum
By: Shurato to Nick Andre on Thu Mar 28 2024 03:47 pm

Ha ha! JH <attempts> to help me occasionally, but he usually just makes fun of my incoherent sentence structure.

What?
When did i make fun of you?
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To: Michael Selhof
Re: Re: RE: BBS Support Forum
By: Michael Selhof to Nick Andre on Thu Mar 28 2024 05:45 am

Yep.. I thought something like this, too.

Being happy is always a thing. I think the topic is something special that deserves support. Especially here in German-speaking countries.

Hopefully I answered everything calm and wise?

Thank you for your answer Nick!

Hey, nick knows everything. You should partner with him on your project.
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On 28 Mar 24 20:42:28, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

no no no. you need to provide your knowledge and input. that's what he ne

I literally just gave all my knowledge and input that you sir, are an idiot.

EOT.

Nick

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To: Shurato
Re: Re: RE: BBS Support Forum By: Shurato to Nick Andre on Thu Mar
28 2024 03:47 pm

Ha ha! JH <attempts> to help me occasionally, but he usually just

makes fun

of my incoherent sentence structure.

What? When did i make fun of you?

Maybe I'm just paranoid, but half of the time when I'm asking for help, you
say you can't understand me.

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To: Nick Andre
Re: Re: RE: BBS Support Forum
By: Nick Andre to Jas Hud on Thu Mar 28 2024 10:59 pm

From Newsgroup: micronet.chat.general

On 28 Mar 24 20:42:28, Jas Hud said the following to Nick Andre:

no no no. you need to provide your knowledge and input. that's what he ne

I literally just gave all my knowledge and input that you sir, are an idiot.

EOT.

I may act like an idiot sometimes, but I am not an idiot. Being me is fun.

You need to go on that man's forum and post a d'bridge howto.
Otherwise you are proving me right by not contributing.
You are proving me right. You would never want that to happen.
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To: Shurato
Re: Re: RE: BBS Support Forum
By: Shurato to Jas Hud on Thu Mar 28 2024 11:50 pm

What? When did i make fun of you?

Maybe I'm just paranoid, but half of the time when I'm asking for help,

you
say you can't understand me.

well you don't really clarify your issue when you have a problem.
You usually just say you have a problem. Then it becomes 20 questions.

When you have a problem you should say what you did, what version you are running and post your screenshots.

Like recently I was playing around and i upgraded my home test system.
I told the developer what steps i took and did screenshots or named off what i downloaded and he was able to tell me right then what my issue was.

If I didn't like you, i wouldn't talk to you. I don't enjoy talking to people I don't like. It's like wrestling a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.
Every once in a while i wipe the slate [twitlist]clean and the usual guys come out of their rock and take their shots at me. that being said, i have been a jerk in the past, but i'm usually just a jerk to other jerks. Or, I'm joking around and people don't get it.

People that have known me for decades (there's still a few around) know i'm an overall nice good person and very selfless.

Regarding all this bbs shit, i'm retired. Pretty much once I cut my services at bbses.info. And i've forgotten or just packed away a lot of my knowledge and what gave me a great edge with this stuff. I still have it, but it takes a awhile to recall with some things. If you don't use it, you lose it.

anyways, i'm rambling. let me summarize.

if you got a problem, the best help you have is yourself. look at your logs and see if you can see whats going wrong. Talk to the developer of the software if you have an issue with software. If you have a problem with your ftn feed, check out what they are doing. There's a lot of feeds that are screwballs.
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Jas Hud wrote to Nick Andre <=-

There is a reason why he is universally disliked on every Net he posts
on.

That's not true, you're just mad because i said d'bridge sucks.

Most of the msg nets ARE full of lame ass bbs people leftovers though.
A bunch of them wouldn't be running without me as well, not that you
would hear them admit it. (not micronet)

I wish everybody luck, except you.

You're not doing a lot to refute Nick's claims, now are you?


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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: BBS Support Forum
By: Kurt Weiske to Jas Hud on Fri Mar 29 2024 07:08 am

Most of the msg nets ARE full of lame ass bbs people leftovers though.

You're not doing a lot to refute Nick's claims, now are you?

you're the guy i thought of when i wrote that.

And I think i've made it clear i don't care about what that little guy
thinks about me. He can keep taking his shots if it makes his dick hard.

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