Gardening time!

What are you growing this year?

Personally I'm not really a flower guy. My partner purchased a couple rose bushes for me to kill this year. I love growing food though. This year its beans, strawberries, roma tomatos, sweet corn, green and spanish onions, zuchinni and bell peppers I assume. This year I'm germinating outside. Sofar the squirrels haven't given me a reason for rodent genocide.


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TheNerd wrote to All <=-

Gardening time!

What are you growing this year?

Personally I'm not really a flower guy. My partner purchased a couple rose bushes for me to kill this year. I love growing food though.
This year its beans, strawberries, roma tomatos, sweet corn, green and spanish onions, zuchinni and bell peppers I assume. This year I'm germinating outside. Sofar the squirrels haven't given me a reason for rodent genocide.

I'm going to grow a raised bed garden in front of my house. The tree
service guys came yesterday and schlepped my evergreen hedger from in
froint of the house. I'm debating what type of raised bed I will put
there. If I hit the lottery I'Il pour footings and hire a mason to lay
concrete block walls in the 25 by 4 space I have planned.

I'm leaning toward a couple of galvanised 12' X 4' X 24" tall planters.

I know it's late for planting most things ... but I can do some radishes
and tomatoes and, of courser, chilies.

Open for suggestions.

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I'm leaning toward a couple of galvanised 12' X 4' X 24" tall planters.

Those things are neat. I just use whatever scrap wood I can find.. I've one one 4 x 8 and about a foot tall made out of roof strapping that we had left over from a barn raising a few years ago. Last year I put in a 4 x 10 made out of some old 6x6's plus a few 3x3's made from old landscaping ties.

I know it's late for planting most things ... but I can do some radishes and tomatoes and, of courser, chilies.

Romas Tomatos are my new fav on tomatos. Last year I got a few bags worth and just stuck them in the freezer then just pulled them out and skinned them frozen to turn into sauces. Store bought tomato sauce always causes me issues, but this method (while more time consumng) allows me to enjoy a nice tomato sauce.

Strawberrys are also on the menu this year. I bought a couple plants the other day that I plan to put in.


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What are you growing this year?

Cherry, grape, and one other type of small tomato. The vines are green and with all the rain we've had lately, are really growing. Got some blooms
but it is too early for much else yet.

I grow them in pots in a semi-enclosed area that keeps most (but not all) animals from being able to get at them.

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Cherry, grape, and one other type of small tomato. The vines are green and with all the rain we've had lately, are really growing. Got some blooms but it is too early for much else yet.

I'm jealous.. you must be more south then me. Up here in Ontario we are only just planting now. Mine haven't sprouted.. grrr.. Whatever.. they are tomatos, once they start growing they won't stop until they can't.

I grow them in pots in a semi-enclosed area that keeps most (but not all) animals from being able to get at them.

I started with that too.. then i got stupid and decided to learn how much it cost to fill a 4x8x2 void with dirt. I did the logs in the bottom thing but I guess thats frowned upon by the youtube experts now.. <sigh>


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Cherry, grape, and one other type of small tomato. The vines are green and with all the rain we've had lately, are really growing. Got some blooms but it is too early for much else yet.

I'm jealous.. you must be more south then me. Up here in Ontario we are only >just planting now. Mine haven't sprouted.. grrr.. Whatever.. they are >tomatos, once they start growing they won't stop until they can't.

Kentucky. ;) I planted them just in time for us to have a late
frost/freeze. Had to move them into the garage for nearly a week. Those pots are *heavy*, so don't be too jealous.

They also won't really start producing until the weather gets, and stays, hot. Probably won't see much until June or July.

I grow them in pots in a semi-enclosed area that keeps most (but not all)
animals from being able to get at them.

I started with that too.. then i got stupid and decided to learn how much it cost to fill a 4x8x2 void with dirt. I did the logs in the bottom thing but guess thats frowned upon by the youtube experts now.. <sigh>

It could be. I have a bed that I used cinder blocks for several years ago.
Flower bed. Never could keep the weeds out of that one, not sure why. I
am slowly getting the flowers that are still doing good out of it and replanting them elsewhere. Then I will dismantle it.

Mike P


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TheNerd wrote to Dave Drum <=-

I'm leaning toward a couple of galvanised 12' X 4' X 24" tall planters.

Those things are neat. I just use whatever scrap wood I can find..
I've one one 4 x 8 and about a foot tall made out of roof strapping
that we had left over from a barn raising a few years ago. Last year I put in a 4 x 10 made out of some old 6x6's plus a few 3x3's made from
old landscaping ties.

Changed my mind on the raised beds. Going to go with three 4X4X2 with space between for a small asparagus bed and some rhubarb0

I know it's late for planting most things ... but I can do some radishes and tomatoes and, of courser, chilies.

Romas Tomatos are my new fav on tomatos. Last year I got a few bags worth and just stuck them in the freezer then just pulled them out and skinned them frozen to turn into sauces. Store bought tomato sauce
always causes me issues, but this method (while more time consumng)
allows me to enjoy a nice tomato sauce.

I'm going with Mortgage Lifter (beefsteak) tomaotes. They're great for sandwiches and salads. I've I were still making my own marinara from
scratch the Romas would be good. Or San Marzano - another plum tomato.

Strawberrys are also on the menu this year. I bought a couple plants
the other day that I plan to put in.

Strawberries can take over if you let them. Although not classed as a
rhizome the propagate (most commonly) by putting out "rnners" which take
root and become a separate plant. Which certainly is rhizome-like. Bv)=

If I do strawbs I'll get starts of Stark Brothers "Everbearing" plants.

Getting lazy in my old age I jus bought, from Menard's, a smallish corded electric tiller by Yardworks. Not quite as convenient as the battery unit
by Masterforce - but about 1/3 the price. Bv)=

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Kentucky. ;) I planted them just in time for us to have a late frost/freeze. Had to move them into the garage for nearly a week.
Those pots are *heavy*, so don't be too jealous.

Nice.. I like Kentucky, we go down there yearly to hit the Farm show in Louisville. I'd love to spend some time in an RV driving around your State.. and a few around you..

OMG pots are heavy.. especially when you add half a bag of rock to the bottom for drainage and forget. My poor hernia...

They also won't really start producing until the weather gets, and
stays, hot. Probably won't see much until June or July.

Thats pretty much when I will start seeing some fruit as well..

ago. Flower bed. Never could keep the weeds out of that one, not sure why. I am slowly getting the flowers that are still doing good out of
it and replanting them elsewhere. Then I will dismantle it.

I just can't get into flowers.. Dunno why.. Probably all the maintenance.. I'm a lazy gardener. :D


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Mike Powell wrote to THENERD <=-

I'm jealous.. you must be more south then me. Up here in Ontario we are

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just planting now. Mine haven't sprouted.. grrr.. Whatever.. they are
tomatos, once they start growing they won't stop until they can't.

Kentucky. ;) I planted them just in time for us to have a late frost/freeze. Had to move them into the garage for nearly a week.
Those pots are *heavy*, so don't be too jealous.

They also won't really start producing until the weather gets, and
stays, hot. Probably won't see much until June or July.

I grow them in pots in a semi-enclosed area that keeps most (but not

all)

animals from being able to get at them.

I started with that too.. then i got stupid and decided to learn how much

t

cost to fill a 4x8x2 void with dirt. I did the logs in the bottom thing

ut

guess thats frowned upon by the youtube experts now.. <sigh>

It could be. I have a bed that I used cinder blocks for several years ago. Flower bed. Never could keep the weeds out of that one, not sure. why I am slowly getting the flowers that are still doing good out of
it and replanting them elsewhere. Then I will dismantle it.

Where did you get the soil for that bed? That's most likely the answer.

I don't have much in the way of flowers. A rose that was here when I
moved in 8 years ago. It has its own trellis and produces smallish,
deep red (almost purple) flowers. And the surprise lillies which surely surprised me when they poppedout of the ground and flowered the first
time. They were in front of the decorative hedge that I just disappeared
so I'll have to be sure not to locate a planter on top of thhm.


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Kentucky. ;) I planted them just in time for us to have a late frost/freeze. Had to move them into the garage for nearly a week.
Those pots are *heavy*, so don't be too jealous.

Nice.. I like Kentucky, we go down there yearly to hit the Farm show in Louisville. I'd love to spend some time in an RV driving around your State.. and a few around you..

There are a lot of neat places around here. Kentucky and Southern Indiana
have a lot of caves; Kentucky, Tennessee, and the Virginias have the
mountains and the "breaks" of the Big Sandy River; and Kentucky has a lot
of arches, rock formations, and a whole lot of waterfalls and man-made lakes.

OMG pots are heavy.. especially when you add half a bag of rock to the bottom
for drainage and forget. My poor hernia...

Yeah, same here on the forgetfulness and the hernia! :D

ago. Flower bed. Never could keep the weeds out of that one, not sure why. I am slowly getting the flowers that are still doing good out of it and replanting them elsewhere. Then I will dismantle it.

I just can't get into flowers.. Dunno why.. Probably all the maintenance.. I'm a lazy gardener. :D

When I first moved in, the previous owners had a lot of things planted that
I felt the need to keep going. Most all of what they had planted, besides
some "ditch" lillies and crepe myrtles, has died off but I planted a lot of other stuff that some of my older neighbors appreciate.

Mike

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Where did you get the soil for that bed? That's most likely the answer.

It was gardening soil, IIRC, purchased. The good black stuff. That said, about 5 or so inches below that is the earth that was there before the
flower bed was planted. There used to be two big boxwoods there so not
much grew underneath them, but that doesn't mean stuff wasn't waiting under them to come up.

I don't have much in the way of flowers. A rose that was here when I
moved in 8 years ago. It has its own trellis and produces smallish,
deep red (almost purple) flowers. And the surprise lillies which surely surprised me when they poppedout of the ground and flowered the first
time. They were in front of the decorative hedge that I just disappeared
so I'll have to be sure not to locate a planter on top of thhm.

A couple of years after I moved in, I had a few tulips pop up in places
where there had previously not been any. I suspect it had something to do
with me removing a whole mess of english ivy that had taken over.

Mike


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Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

It was gardening soil, IIRC, purchased. The good black stuff. That
said, about 5 or so inches below that is the earth that was there
before the flower bed was planted. There used to be two big boxwoods there so not much grew underneath them, but that doesn't mean stuff
wasn't waiting under them to come up.

My nephew is a carpenter/contractor and he will furnish my planting
dirt (and use of his dump trailer) so I should be golden there. I've
also got (started last fall) a compost barrel going that I got from
the pages of Mother Earth News. The barrel is horizontal in a frame-
work that lets it rotate. I added a wind driver belt drive to turn
it verrrrrry slowly. Should work out nicely. I also kept the hand
crank - J.I.C. Bv)=

I don't have much in the way of flowers. A rose that was here when I
moved in 8 years ago. It has its own trellis and produces smallish,
deep red (almost purple) flowers. And the surprise lillies which surely surprised me when they poppedout of the ground and flowered the first
time. They were in front of the decorative hedge that I just disappeared
so I'll have to be sure not to locate a planter on top of thhm.

A couple of years after I moved in, I had a few tulips pop up in places where there had previously not been any. I suspect it had something to
do with me removing a whole mess of english ivy that had taken over.

English Ivy - the stuuf that gave the Ivy League its name. Ivy covered professors in ivy covered halls. Bv)=

Learned early on how to combat it. If it's growing up a wall or a tree
where it's unwanted cut it off at ground level, Then go about six inches
up the vine and cut again. This removes the source of moisture and food
and the vine soon dies.

We had a wood lot with a lot of black walnet trees - and harvested both
nuts and wood so my grandfather didn't want anything mucking about with
them. Oaks and shag-bark hickory were not so carefully protected.

Is this a local echo? I went looking on other boards I visit and found
Home 'n Garden (and subscribed).

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Learned early on how to combat it. If it's growing up a wall or a tree
where it's unwanted cut it off at ground level, Then go about six inches
up the vine and cut again. This removes the source of moisture and food
and the vine soon dies.

I have killed of quite a few vine growing things by cutting them like that, then putting just a little poison on the remaining ground vine at the first cut.

Is this a local echo? I went looking on other boards I visit and found
Home 'n Garden (and subscribed).

No, it is a Hobbynet echo. Some of the other boards you visit may not
carry it. I am the moderator of the FIDO echo you found elsewhere, but
have had difficulty getting any participants to continue posting. This one seems to get better traffic.

Mike


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Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

Learned early on how to combat it. If it's growing up a wall or a tree
where it's unwanted cut it off at ground level, Then go about six inches
up the vine and cut again. This removes the source of moisture and food
and the vine soon dies.

I have killed of quite a few vine growing things by cutting them like that, then putting just a little poison on the remaining ground vine at the first cut.

Something else you can do - put potassium nitrate (saltpeter) or Epsom
salts on the stump .... whether a vine or a tree. It kills the root and promotes rot and breakdown underground of the woody left-overs. I had
a problem with several eruptions of a "Tree of Heaven" (aka Hobo Jungle
Tree) which kept growing back if cut. Saltpeter put paid to that. And
I learned that the root system on that plant is often very extensive.
There were Trees of Heaven dying for almost a block around. And I did
not have to use "forever" chemicals or Round-Up to get 'er done.. Bv)=

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Something else you can do - put potassium nitrate (saltpeter) or Epsom
salts on the stump .... whether a vine or a tree. It kills the root and promotes rot and breakdown underground of the woody left-overs. I had
a problem with several eruptions of a "Tree of Heaven" (aka Hobo Jungle
Tree) which kept growing back if cut. Saltpeter put paid to that. And
I learned that the root system on that plant is often very extensive.
There were Trees of Heaven dying for almost a block around. And I did
not have to use "forever" chemicals or Round-Up to get 'er done.. Bv)=

That is a good idea. I shall have to try that on a few woody weed plants I need to cut out.

Mike


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Something else you can do - put potassium nitrate (saltpeter) or Epsom
salts on the stump .... whether a vine or a tree. It kills the root and promotes rot and breakdown underground of the woody left-overs. I had
a problem with several eruptions of a "Tree of Heaven" (aka Hobo Jungle Tree) which kept growing back if cut. Saltpeter put paid to that. And
I learned that the root system on that plant is often very extensive.
There were Trees of Heaven dying for almost a block around. And I did
not have to use "forever" chemicals or Round-Up to get 'er done.. Bv)=

Something I meant to ask... I have Epsom salts. I assume that I should mix them with water, just like I would for medicinal purposes?

Mike
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Mike Powell wrote to Dave Drum <=-

Something else you can do - put potassium nitrate (saltpeter) or Epsom
salts on the stump .... whether a vine or a tree. It kills the root and promotes rot and breakdown underground of the woody left-overs. I had
a problem with several eruptions of a "Tree of Heaven" (aka Hobo Jungle Tree) which kept growing back if cut. Saltpeter put paid to that. And
I learned that the root system on that plant is often very extensive.
There were Trees of Heaven dying for almost a block around. And I did
not have to use "forever" chemicals or Round-Up to get 'er done.. Bv)=

Something I meant to ask... I have Epsom salts. I assume that I should mix them with water, just like I would for medicinal purposes?

I've not used it myself, just know/knew it cold be used. So I looked
arond and got this from Bob Vila )yeah, the Tee Vee guy)

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Starting about 3 inches from the outside edge of the stump, drill 1"
wide holes, spaced 1" apart, into the top of the stump. Drill down as
deep as possible.

Fill the holes with Epsom salt and add enough water to saturate it w
ithout causing the salts to spill over. Sprinkle more Epsom salt
around the base of the stump.

Cover the stump with a tarp to prevent rainwater from washing the Epsom
salt away.

Wait a month or so while the Epsom salt cuts off the moisture supply
to the roots, killing the stump.

When the tree stump is dead (there should be no green wood and no shoots emerging), either dig it up, grind it down, or find a creative way to incorporate it into your landscape.

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There is also a nice article w/videos at: https://www.trees.com/gardening-and-landscaping/how-to-remove-tree-stump-with-epsom-salt

I put saltpeter on the big maple mstump in my back yard and let the rain
make a "solution" which leached into the wood. It takes a while to break
down the fib

I've not used it myself, just know/knew it cold be used. So I looked
arond and got this from Bob Vila )yeah, the Tee Vee guy)

Thanks, Dave. I have Epsom salts so I will try that.

I put saltpeter on the big maple mstump in my back yard and let the rain
make a "solution" which leached into the wood. It takes a while to break
down the fibre of the wood. I've re-applied it every spring for three
years (no hurry, right?) and I think it will succumb to the roto-tiller
next spring.

In the event I don't have luck wiht the Epsom salts, where were you able to find saltpeter?

Mike

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Mike Powell wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

I've not used it myself, just know/knew it cold be used. So I looked
arond and got this from Bob Vila )yeah, the Tee Vee guy)

Thanks, Dave. I have Epsom salts so I will try that.

I put saltpeter on the big maple mstump in my back yard and let the rain make a "solution" which leached into the wood. It takes a while to break down the fibre of the wood. I've re-applied it every spring for three
years (no hurry, right?) and I think it will succumb to the roto-tiller
next spring.

In the event I don't have luck wiht the Epsom salts, where were you
able to find saltpeter?

Amazon, many gardn supply stores (and Farm & Home stores, Walmart has it
listed - but as I do NOT do busiess with any part of Wally World I can't confirm that.

It's used in curng of meats as well as making gunpowder and even in
cooking. So it's pretty common if not as ubiquitous as salt & pepper.


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